ANC faction secretary Aram Manukyan urges not to fall under Putin’s feet but do an acrobatic turnover and solve the Karabakh issue
“Dear people, our war at this point is not with Turks than with the international organizations. If Russia, the international organizations have decided that this issue should be resolved, you must play a diplomacy, pass to their side to leave Azerbaijan alone… Not agreeing on leads to reversions. We have had success in the entire war for we have worked in harmony with international organizations, in harmony with Russia, with Russian USD 4 billion weapons,” said the ANC faction secretary Aram Manukyan presenting their suggested Peace program.
In an interview with “Aravot”, talking about our relations with Russia, Aram Manukyan said, “Since the reality is that Russia is the decision-maker, you must try not to fall under the feet of the elders, this is what I am saying.” To our observation that he is already accused of being pro-Russian, for example, recently Hrant Bagratyan said that he has two problems to cooperate with the ANC, one of which is that it is necessary to understand our independence and relations with Russia, and strategic relations have a limit, Aram Manukyan responded, “I am a proclaimer of independence, it have done it against Russia to come out of the empire.”
He reminded what situation have the states like Ossetia and Ukraine appeared coming out against Russia, “Coming out against the empire, not behaving smart and with their non-diplomatic stance, they have lost only territories. Russia has turned out to be a winner, and there has been no structure in the world which will go against it. The issue solver today, it does not matter whether you want it or not, it is fair or not, is Russia in this region. We have had success in Karabakh also by taking advantage of it.”
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To our observation that SIPRI, according to the report on global arms sales, Russia has sold 20 times more weapons to Azerbaijan than to Armenia, so how we can warm relations with Russia after all these, Aram Manukyan replied, “Yes, Ter-Petrosyan also used to say that time will come when Russia’s interests will coincide with those of Azerbaijan, and Armenia will appear in a very hard situation. Therefore, driven from this, it is necessary to give legal solutions at the time when Russia’s interests fully coincide with our interests. Now, Russia’s interest is that it wants to expand its influence in the region. It is its interest and its right. Based on this situation, you must find such a solution to go towards fewer losses. This is called a solution with fewer losses. If not, you can have more losses. You absolutely have no right to blame other countries for deciding their own interest, find your own interest in it.”
To our observation that we without anything are already under Putin’s fee, so how further we should fall under his feet and we see the result, Aram Manukyan responded, “Did I say something like it? There is such a situation on the acrobatics: when the acrobat makes a turn to go up, you must get to the situation that he finalizes the rotation with one finger. No need to fall under the feet, no need to undermine your own dignity, you must use his energy so that you would receive a big result with a movement of one finger. Look at what interests Russia has in South Caucasus after Syria. It has solved the Syrian issue, it has solved the Turkish issue, it has military bases here and wants to expand its influence. It’s beyond your wish and beyond your capabilities. You can use this energy in a way to get the maximum prosperity, development, good-neighborliness. Politics is a very tough thing.”
According to Aram Manukyan, Armenia is not weak that other to not reckon with it but it is stupid, “In 1993, we had a budget of USD 300 million, we had only hunting weapons that after shooting once, the tube was hanging but we have won because no one was saying us the mildest rebuke, there was no such thing. The League of Arab Muslim countries which was not radical, no one ever said what the Armenian troops have done in Karabakh. Wasn’t Ter-Petrosyan in Persia when Shushi was conquered, let the Persian Shah utter a word? This is a genre from another tale, to be in a Muslim country, liberate the remaining Muslim country territories. It is necessary to have brains. Small nations if they do not have a weapon they must use brains.”
